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I stand by my statement. On *that* tape, Gadd's playing wasn't as good as some of the other things I have seen him play.

COmpared to Cobham, Gadd, on that tape, didn't play musically.

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>COmpared to Cobham, Gadd, on that tape, didn't play musically.

What are you talkin' about? Gadd always plays musically. :-) :-)

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It's a good thing that drummers don't hire Gadd. That female guitar player was definitely getting into his playing in the background. I think that something all of the players lacked on that tape was a decent sounding drumkit. Gadd in particular though could have played a cardboard box and it would have still moved the earth. JMHO.
Clint

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I thought Tommy Campbell's solo was really amateurish. There was nothing techinically wrong with it; it just wasn't very interesting or good. He never finishes a phrase. I didn't like Cobham's for basically the same reason. His double bass work is awful, and I don't think his namesake chops are impressive at all.

Compare his playing to Terry Bozzio's (who also uses a huge kit, uses lots of single strokes, and is known for his "musical" solos). Bozzio blows him away. Again, there's something to be learned from every drummer, but I think Campbell and Cobham don't really stand up by TODAY'S standards, albeit back in the day they were innovators.

Gadd, though, simply grooves his ass off, and that's timeless. I will say this though (since I'm in critic mode), I wish Gadd would learn a new fill. That thing he does with the bass drum and toms gets old fast. He really over-uses it on the Buddy Rich vid.

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Jack

I thought the same thing about Campbell's solo when I first started playing the drums...I listened to it later and had a change of mind.

MethodAir http://www.electricmountain.com/methodair.mp3

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Campbell's solo is very musical and since he plays in an unorthodox style, he plays some interesting stuff. He certainly doesn't have ape Gadd or Vinnie.

I just hear the melodies he and Cobham play on their kits, I don't hear the same of Steve Gadd on that tape.



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I watched the video last night again, and I take back what I said about Bissonette. He actually does some cool stuff. REALLY fast singles between the bass and hands. Plus he's the only one who demonstrates some swing independence (holding traditional, no less). The verdict is still out on the other guys...

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Jack

I hate that one Gadd fill too. Maybe he does it as a reminder to people about all the records he drummed on in the seventies and eighties. He shoulda just got up there and played the groove from Lenore.

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Trilok Gurtu is on that Live in London video...some of the stuff that guy has done is untouchable.

MethodAir http://www.electricmountain.com/home.htm

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[This message has been edited by MethodAir (edited March 05, 2002).]